My parents have saved all paper, including house plans and specifications, but there doesn’t seem to be anything that shows where the plumbing and gas lines run. So, when Cathy and Fernando visited in August 2015 and found a water leak in the planter box by the front ramp, they called Pinpoint to locate the path of the lines and Quality Plumbing (of course, it was a weekend and no local plumbers were available). Quality dug up the corner of the planter box and was able to “patch the line.
Cathy smelled gas, but thought it was decaying vegetation as the pipe had leaked for a while. They left.
A week or two later Martha and Felix report a strong gas smell. So I called Randy Lemons and he turned off the gas at the main. Penny arrives Sept 26-Oct 13 on repair duty, and Susan and Rich come for a shorter time so Rich can give valuable input and direction. Joe of Sespe Plumbing says he’s up for the job of rerunning the gas and water lines from the top of the motor court into the house. Pinpoint again is hired to come and mark lines which they detect run up into lines behind the wall in the house by the heater room.
Trench at top of ramp
Early in the job Sespe Plumbing jackhammers trenches from the box to the garage, across the top of the ramp, and across the patio to the heater room as well as digging a trench in the planter box and removing 3 concrete blocks to run the piping around a supporting egg crate pole.
Trench cut in planter box and across patio
Joe digs out the concrete box by the holly and replaces the old gas and water lines and adds shut off valves on the NE outside of the garage.
The concrete box removed and new lines run..blue shutoff valve for water
There is also still a shut off valve for the water underground in the box.
The new lines now run into the garage, over the garage door and down the other side.
Lines run over garage door
Near the top, the gas line T’s to run across the garage to the water heater in the closet on the SW corner of the garage.
From there a new line runs into the NE corner of the house (shut off valve inside) and down to the gas dryer.
By the SE corner of the garage both lines turn along the floor. The gas
line continues in flexible tubing into the kitchen – behind the lazy Susan, sink cabinet, dishwasher, cabinet and attaches to the gas range. There is a shut off valve at the back on the left-hand side of the range.
The water line T’s to send one line through a hole in the garage outside and down into the trench dug at the top of the ramp, through the trench dug in the planter box and then across the patio in the trench to the heater room. The gas line also T’s very close to the same spot and runs alongside the water lines in the trenches.
Water and gas lines exiting the garage
There is a sewer line running from the kitchen sink to the NE corner of the house, but it must lie very deep as the trench at about 10 inches deep did not find it. Mother says two outtake pipes from each bathroom join it.
Pinpoint had marked two places on the house wall to the left of the heater room door about 15 inches above the ground where the water and gas line were supposed to run. The idea was to connect the new lines to these lines in the house. But when Joe cut holes there were no pipes.
Nope, no pipes where Pinpoint located them!
We concluded that the lines probably run down into the slab. I complained to Pinpoint and they sent a refund check…in Cathy’s name, spelled wrong, of course.
water and gas line in the heater room
So Sespe Plumbing ran new water lines to the toilets in both bathrooms. He also ran a water line to the radiant heat, thinking it needed a supply, but Rich caught that and it was disconnected and removed. The gas line was run to the burner for the radiant heat.
The water line also continued in PVC piping along the base of the house to provide landscaping water to the SE part of the property.
But when this line was connected to the existing line at the faucet, water flowed back into the house through the abandoned toilet lines. So the new line was joined a few inches south, and the northflowing pipe capped as Joe was afraid pressure would building up inside the line and cause flooding within the house. The old lines in the bathroom were also capped at the interior wall.
As there was then no exterior water to the NE side of the property an old galvanized line that runs from the box to a shut off valve (in ground) and faucet near Jeff’s gate was reconnected. It also supplies the water for the sprinklers on this side. That pipe is fragile but it is working now. And it may well have been the source of water for this area before.
Back in the garage the water line fed into the soft water tank and from there through existing lines within the house to all the water heaters, sinks, shower and bathtub using soft water.
water to the soft water tank and then throughout the house
God only knows where those lines run.